Two nights running now ive been up with Caelyn at 330-4am when shes woken screaming. Night before last she literally went from fast asleep to hysterical screaming and when i picked her up she was wild, pushing and kicking and fighting me trying to climb up my chest. I put her in bed with us and after 20 mins and singing to her managed to get her calmed down. But cos she was in bed with us she then started chatting to her dad and he's incapable of doing as ive asked him. Ive said over and over again dont chat to her at night she thinks its playtime if you do just say shshsh or sleepies caelyn but as usual he started chatting to her and woke her up so after 20 mins i ripped him a new one and he rolled over in a huff and refused to have anything for to do with it. In the end i gave her calpol and a bottle of milk and finally got her back to sleep after she had been up for an hour and put her back in her cot.

The last night at 330 she was moaning and it woke me up. I went to the loo and on ghe way back i peeked in her door as i always do but unfortunately she saw me and shot up crying. She was wet through which was weird but i changed her then I sat in the chair in her room cuddling her but even once she was really dozy she started again as soon as she went back in cot. Heard neil get up and thought he might be of some use but he turned the monitor down and got back in bed . In the end i was so tired i put her music on and gave her a bottle of milk and she went off.

This morning was apparently all because i had taken her dummies off her too soon according to His Nibs even though she had been settled for 3-4 nights before that! Then when he put her in bed with me and went to leave for work she got all upset cos daddy was leaving and didnt want anything to do with me which is more and more common at the mo when daddy is home. Im so fed up of always being the bad guy. Daddy comes home and plays with her, chats to her when shes awake at night and gives in to her every whim in case she might cry (!) and mummy is always the bad guy who tells her off when she is naughty and stands her ground when decisions are made and doesnt just give in cos C is crying. And im fed up of being guilted by him for being too strict and ignored by c when daddy is home cos who wants to sit with mummy when mr fun is about.

And i dont know what to do about this 4am thing. Shes just about finished her antibiotics so might ask the nurse just to check her ears are now clear but otherwise im not sure if its more damn teeth or a growth spurt or is just being awkward cos her dumdums are gone and i dont want to keep giving her milk at 4am. Thinking of some calpol before bed tonight and if she wakes in night offering juice instead and letting her just sulk if she doesnt like it but im just not sure what to do

Sounds the same as in our house. Ive started really putting my foot down with Tayla coming into our bed at night. Its been 6 nights now. Luke either 'sleeps through it all' or goes to get her and bring her in our bed After all ive done to get her to stay in her our bed!
It was the same for me growing up tho, my mum was always the strict one and i was such a daddys girl! I think its like that most of the time in families. We know whats best for our los, daddys just try and do things to easier way for the short run and dont think of the long run!

I know how you feel about dad being fab and mum being pants cause she does the telling off etc! I think it's something all mums go through! We spend the first year doing pretty much everything for the kids then they get independent and discover dad!

I don't know what to suggest about the waking up though, but your dead right that Neil shouldn't talk to C when she is in with supposed to be going back to sleep!! I guess that the coming into your bed every night is a habit you don't want to start along with the milk! Other than going into her and calming her there really isn't much I can suggest!! It sounds from your description of the first night that she might have had a bad dream! And last night she was stirring and caught you peeking! But there doesn't seem a pattern as such, so I personnally don't think it's dummy related!

Hope you find a solution soon!

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Aw Mario, I think it's a man thing - Simon has ALWAYS expected me to deal with Libby at night

As for the cause being her dummy, it seems strange that she was fine for 3-4 nights before it all kicked off

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Same in our house too hun. Sorry I can't offer a solution but you're not alone and like Terri said, was the same in our house when me and my bro were little. I seriously can't decide if it comes down to being soft and not liking to hear them crying or just pure and simple laziness by taking the easier option and giving in to the LOs? I have pleaded with OH to back me up with decision but time and time again he gnores me and lets them away with anything if they cry long/loud enough.

Example: I have just had to endure a 1/2 hour screaming tantrum from Thomas because I took his dummy off him and put it under his pillow when he got up. This has been the rule for nearly a year now and Thomas even puts it there himself normally. However I have been ill all weekend and OH has got up with the kids twice and obviously let Thomas have his dummy downstairs both days so I'm now back to square one. I was just starting to think he maybe ready to take it away but in two days daddy has managed to screw up my hard work. He will have a new one ripped when he gets home from work!

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even if it is the dummy - dont give in now your doing so well. give it a week max and she will accept it. think of it this way pretty soon she will be a two year old and she will have massive strops and be able to beg you for the dummy and that will be so much harder to deal with.

Its the same in my house although my oh is getting much better. you have to sit down and agree to a few things like the bringing her to your bed - both of you need to speak about what you want to do about the situation and both do the same thing when it happens.

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Mario - we can still have this palaver - and bean has dummies still. He flings it out of the cot along with the muslin though when it suits

I'm going to dig out the beanpods - dreampods is it?! (m&p sleeping bags) - and see if we can't cosy him up a bit more now the weathers colder.

Honestly though, illness aside it can just be phases and stages - which is what we end up putting it down to after ruling everything else out!

Is she asking for a dummy at all?! x

Im that bad person too hun i do the telling off and boring stuff like bum and baths and putting to bed daddy plays and chases her. she has started coming into our room and as you can see from fb photos recently daddy plays with her then too even at 12:30 at night then its bad mummy that puts her back to bed x`

Daddys r all the same hun!! jst now we r leaving evan to scream as long as it takes to get him sleepin in his cot all night and for half of the time we have been doin it my oh has slept on sofa!! or he lies n chats to evan to try stop him screaming which does stop the screaming but evans wide awake wanting to play and wen oh goes back to sleep im left with hyper evan!

i hope she sleeps thru again soon hun!! i reverted back to givin milk thru the night to but ive stopped it now lol

Most Daddy's are "Good Time Charlies", and especially with their little girls, they cannot say the word "NO" or put their foot down with certain behaviors. I know Neil just loves his little C to bits and she is his princess and will cater to her every little whim cept when it comes to discipline. I have to giggle at this, eventho right now it's a huge thorn in your side, but fast forward a few years, and you will have what Shayne is dealing right now with Madisyn...she beaks off at him like he is beneath her and they fight all the time. It's like watching an old married couple bicker, to which Madisyn usually wins the argument. Now, when I step in, it's all business, and she takes me seriously and rarely sasses me because she knows I don't play that! I think it's rare for both parents to be exactly the same..it is usually the Good cop - Bad cop system. I think it only sinks in when they feel the way we do..exhausted and at our wits end, but we all know that Dad's do not or ever will know the true definition of dog tired! xxx

aww hun, i suppose i have this to look forward too.

but could it be night terrors thats why she waking, just a thought

I did wonder clare but i think its teeth as she woke up after her daytime nap the same today and didnt settle til i gave her calpol then just laying on my chest wiped out. Shes also got a bit of a red bum and is drinking cupfuls and cupfuls of juice today which is usually a teething thing with her. Gave her dinner a bit later today and a biscuit with her bedtime milk and another dose of calpol on the basis i think its teeth so fingers crossed. If she does wake ive got a bottle of juice made up as its all shes having tonight but im hoping after 2 night sbroken sleep and only a cat nap today plus staying up til 730 shes tired enough to go through so i can sleep too!

Aw I hope you both get a full nights sleep.

How are you now hun? xx

Not too bad mate, bp and pulse still up and back at gp tommorrow for recheck. How are you? No more woozy turns i hope

Oh no, hope it starts behaving soon for you!!

Yeah I fine, had the day off and Simon hasn't let me do alot (it really scared him, bless him) so no more wozzyness thankfully xx