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PostSubject: Bit of advice needed.   Bit of advice needed. - Page 2 EmptyMon Dec 13, 2010 8:05 pm

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Ok so as some of you know i havent seen any of my family for 18 months due to a massive fall out.

My "mother" got in touch a while back and we have been comunicationg by telephone since September every other week. We are on decent terms i.e we chat about everyday shit.

But she has bought the kids xmas presents. She asked if she could drop them at my house which i told her no cause tbh she will never be welcome at my house ever again. But she has asked me if i can take the kids over and pick them up.

Now Ben says i cant take the little ones over but the bigger kids can make their own mind up fair enough. Sam has never met her and Archie doesnt 100% remember them so its no detrement to them.

But i kinda wanna take them all. I am half and half, part of me wants to go and part of me doesnt. I sort of feel a need to take them all over especially Sam, i feel i need to show them off, and say look what you have missed out one, also i need to show my baby off, no-one in my family has ever met him and that has hurt me.

Ben still totally hates them which i dont blame him, and hes worried they will try to come between us which would never happen, i dont feel any loyalty to tthem at all.

But i feel like i have got out of their controling clutches and am now being controlled by Ben! They are my kids too, obviously if i take them i go against him, but if i dont he gets his own way. I dont wanna go against his wishes, and he does understand why i feel the need to take them.

I just dont know what to do tbh. I dont want to get into this big relationship with them again, i like them at arms length but i would like to take the kids over.

They are complete bastards i agree with Ben, but they do love the kids to bits regardless of what they have done, and its easy for Ben to say *$%£ them but he has all his family right on our doorstep and he sees them every day.

I need your wisdom girlies Very Happy


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PostSubject: Re: Bit of advice needed.   Bit of advice needed. - Page 2 EmptyTue Dec 14, 2010 7:08 am

ahhhhh mara, i really feel for you, you're between a rock and a hard place!!!

i am shit at advice, but i think you need to have a real indepth conversation with ben, try and work out why he feels so strongly against, and you get over how you feel, not easy but if you don't both get out how you feel, there will be alot of resentment building.

the neutral place sounds like a good idea, would ben be up for you taking them for something like that??

i really hope you guys can work it out and you have a satisfactory conclusion

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PostSubject: Re: Bit of advice needed.   Bit of advice needed. - Page 2 EmptyTue Dec 14, 2010 7:40 am

Ok, i now think you need to tell your parents its a no go for now, they should not come between you guys.

its not worth falling out with ben, they waited this long they can wait a bit longer xxxx
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PostSubject: Re: Bit of advice needed.   Bit of advice needed. - Page 2 EmptyTue Dec 14, 2010 7:58 am

Awww Geez..this is a tough one hun! I am in no place to offer much advice on this as we going thru similar stuff, not as bad mind you. I can tell Ben is not in a place to forgive your parents/family as he saw how hurt and tormented you were by them. So he has a valid point. He is standing firm on protecting you and the kids, as he probably believes that this new founded relationship with your family is gonna end in pain, as it has time and time again before...and he is scared for you and his kids. As much as I'd love to believe that they have all seen the light and have changed for the better, I have serious doubts as you yourself have stated your mom is still a poisonous snake. As far as the kids having anything to do with them, I think your older two will not buy into your family's bullshit, as they are well aware of the hurt caused...but you still have to protect them. An indicator of present or future behavior is the past. Only you can truly decide, but don't get sucked or pulled into their trap because you so long for parents/grandparents for you and your kids. xxxx
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PostSubject: Re: Bit of advice needed.   Bit of advice needed. - Page 2 EmptyTue Dec 14, 2010 9:53 am

i think i agree with Jo, its hard to pursuade ben that its not gna do any damage to yours/his and his/kids relationships when its already putting a big stress on the relationship before its happened
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PostSubject: Re: Bit of advice needed.   Bit of advice needed. - Page 2 EmptyTue Dec 14, 2010 10:26 pm

Oh Mara hunni, just seen this. RU ok???

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PostSubject: Re: Bit of advice needed.   Bit of advice needed. - Page 2 EmptyTue Dec 14, 2010 11:04 pm

i think u are doing fab in agreeing to let the kids see them .
i funnily have oposite problem well HAD with ly inlaws my farter inlaw HATES me and refuses to see me ever or talk to or about me . he only WANTS to see 2 of our 5 kids . (my step children) this is because there arnt MINE he never wishes to see mine as they are part of me . obv my older ones are 11 and 9 so old enouth to know whats going on like your older ones and they would love to see grandad but i choose the very HARD dessision and told his dad he saw all or none of them . to this day he hasnt seen any off them bar once when mil took them to hers in cornwall for weekend . i choose this cause it got to a point one day when amy my 5 year old then 5 turned to me and said tho tears why does grandad only love them and not me or my little sister. to me that was finnaly straw and told them so so i am 100 percent u taking all or none . ok the older ones may feel upset but thats up to ben to explain . try asking ben or show him my post as how would he like it if one of your smaller ones said the same one day ? by sounds of it wont be making habbit of seeing them often so once in a while wont do harm and like you said you will never leave them alone ...
i still to this dday as much as i hate my fil and for him saying that jody shuld never of been born he calls her IT . that even tho this if he decides he wants to see them i wont stop him at all . saddly this isnt going to happen as he is a nasty peice of work .x



opps rammbled on sorry hun .x
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PostSubject: Re: Bit of advice needed.   Bit of advice needed. - Page 2 EmptyWed Dec 15, 2010 2:19 am

Thanks to all of you for replying i have read and taken on board all your comments and have even shown this post to Ben.

We have had a good heart to heart and talked with the older kids.

We have decided i am going to meet them somewhere neuteral and i will take Chelsea and Sam.

Tom doesnt want to go at all and TBH i worry about taking Archie. I dont intend to make it a regular thing and i dont want Archie to get upset by it. Bens reasons for not wanting me to take the little ones is he is worried she will do what she did to Chelsea and Tom when they were young (played mind games with them).

We have agreed that i am taking Sam for purely selfish reasons and he wont actually get anything out of it but its something i need to do for me. I need them to meet him. And Chelsea herself has said she wants to go which is fine and she understands it wont be a regular thing.

I dont want to be cruel to them by just not taking any of the kids and i will make them understand its not going to be a regular thing and we will never be happy families ever again.

I have come to realise i dont want a face to face relationship with them and i know i will never ever trust them again.

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Glad you've come to a decision hun x
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Glad you and ben have managed to talk it out and come up with a solution together xx
Sounds like u know what your doing now xx
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