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PostSubject: naughty step not an option   naughty step not an option EmptyThu Mar 03, 2011 6:53 am

Jack bites, kicks, pinches and punches any kid the same age as him!

i get down to his level to tell him off, make him apoligise only for him to do it again 5 min later. Its resulting in me taking him home after sometimes only 15 min at playgroups!

I was doing the naughty step but now he takes himself before i've even got to him and sits there! once finished he shout ta daaaa!! Obviously sees it as a game!

He gets worse the more i tell him off!

Its so embarrassing and sometimes i leave nearly in tears after fighting to get his coat on kicking and screaming at me!


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PostSubject: Re: naughty step not an option   naughty step not an option EmptyThu Mar 03, 2011 7:00 am

silent treatment?? naughty chair is a taaah daah for us now too!

we now, pick him up or march him to a corner, sit him on his back side, soetimes quite firmly and give the pointed finger and look! to say, frigging well sit on ur back side boy ur being bad! kinda works. slight scare tactic in there but he does not go back and do it again.

shame we cant kick it old school. my dad always says nothing cures a naughty child like a skelp backside!

hehe!

aww sorry, im no much help, but silent treatment is kinda working with us, abd being firm
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PostSubject: Re: naughty step not an option   naughty step not an option EmptyThu Mar 03, 2011 7:03 am

Thanks,

I cant really ignore it as hes hurting the other kids. I am very firm in my voice i pre warn him before playgroup, maybe thats wrong??

Perservere i surpose!
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PostSubject: Re: naughty step not an option   naughty step not an option EmptyThu Mar 03, 2011 7:12 am

im strugglin a bit with evan jst now to, not hitting ppl or anything but he jst wont do what i tell him espec when it comes to hittin the tv!! or touching what he shudnt! i cant use naughty step as he loves being on the stairs and wud be in his element that i let him on the stairs!
i did try puttin him out in the hall and closing the door which worked until he realised he cud jst open the door
sorry im not much help but ur not alone!
do u think maybe keeping him away from playgroups for a week or 2 will help cos he might miss it, then realise if he behaves he can go back? maybe he is a bit young to understand that
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PostSubject: Re: naughty step not an option   naughty step not an option EmptyThu Mar 03, 2011 7:19 am

I've tried not going for a week, just went straight back to doing it when we went back.

I've just been looking on line at ways to deal with it and am so shocked at some other forums responses!


Aparantly it all down to the parents! Naughty childrens parents let them get away with it!! said one lady

Well Ryan has never ever been like it and i certainly never let Jack get away with it! I watch him like a hawlk and im straight in there stopping him as soon as he does it!

Sorry, but that really upset me.
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PostSubject: Re: naughty step not an option   naughty step not an option EmptyThu Mar 03, 2011 7:27 am

I think Jack is a similar age to Andrew looking at your ticker? 2 and a half?

Anyways Andrew went through this phase about a year ago. He would hit and push his friends all the time.

It is just a phase and he will grow out of it! I thought it was never going to end but it did and it is brilliant i can now go to groups and stay the entire time! We used to be like you and end up leaving after being there not very long!

I used to put Andrew in the pushchair for 2 mins whilst out as he went through a phase of playing with the naughty spot too.

We are now back to just naughty spot. The best thing is at this age though he really enjoys being at group and now all I have to say is 'do you want to go home? ' i pick him up and he immediately says sorry.

I have also made sure he apologises to whoever he has hurt as a way to bring it home that it is wrong.

Hope that helps!
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PostSubject: Re: naughty step not an option   naughty step not an option EmptyThu Mar 03, 2011 7:44 am

Thanks wriggler, yeah he's 2 1/2. So there is light at the end of the tunnel?!

Just need to carry on what im doing i guess, maybe i'll try strapping him in his pushchair for a bit!
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PostSubject: Re: naughty step not an option   naughty step not an option EmptyThu Mar 03, 2011 7:55 am

puttin him in his pushchair every time he hits someone sounds like a good idea and wud prob work fairly quick he might have screaming tantrum at first but he will soon realise he jst has to stop hiting and he wont be put in pushchair!

and as for the comment its down to the parent, def not!! im sure there is parents who do let there kids off with everything and anything so the kids are wild
but some kids are jst hyper and mischief in nature, evan is always lookin for things he can get up to and he does stuff he doesnt realise he shudnt be doing like if i get a screwdriver or whatever when i put it back he will be right behind me gettin it and trying to screw holes into the wall or the tv!! of course he gets in trouble but he thinks he is doing what mummy was doing lol so dont let that comment upset u
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PostSubject: Re: naughty step not an option   naughty step not an option EmptyThu Mar 03, 2011 8:03 am

rich was like this, he got expelled from 2 nurseries between 2-3yrs old.

hun try removing him, but so he can see the other children having a fun time, everytime he does anything.

also try one behaviour at a time, so with the biting work on that first, when he does that he gets removed from the place, hitting pushing, he gets put in pushchair,
he should then stop the biting, then do the same with the pushing etc.

also be consistent, dont let anything go, but pick your battles put your energy into the ones YOU believe are causing the most hurt.

also over praise him, for every little thing he does good, praise him, i mean anything, he will enjoy getting the praise and will try to do more for to hear you say good boy.

its going to be hard, i find the over praising hard especially when they just hit you, but when he is kicking you, say something like, i love your smile, you need to shock him with priase, this will make him think and stop what he doing.

my son went through this for quite a few years, but he has health issues and i would get upset when peeps said it was parenting, please dont you not alone, this is a difficult time for all parents.
sending you a hug and some strength
hope my info as been helpful and understandable xx
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PostSubject: Re: naughty step not an option   naughty step not an option EmptyThu Mar 03, 2011 8:05 am

Definately light at the end of the tunnel! I honestly felt like the phase was going to go on forever but it doesnt!

The comments by the way are just stupid! Like michelle said there are people that just turn a blind eye to it but you obviously dont!

It is just a phase some children go through, it is not your fault!!

By the way Andrew went to a 2s group today and one of his little friends is going through the same stage as he was last year and his friend was trying to push him off the bike Andrew was playing on. Andrew just sat there and shouted 'MUMMY' he didnt even retaliate. A year ago he would easily have pushed or hit the other child but not anymore!

As long as you are consistant it will be ok xx
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PostSubject: Re: naughty step not an option   naughty step not an option EmptyThu Mar 03, 2011 10:12 pm

have you tried a reward chart ??? explain to him that if he is good and gets through nursery without hurting anyone he will gain a star and at the end of every week give him a small reward something he enjoys doing but make sure you hold off doing it during the week when he is working for the stars allow him to put the stars on the chart and give plenty of praise ??? just an idea
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PostSubject: Re: naughty step not an option   naughty step not an option EmptyThu Mar 03, 2011 11:30 pm

Thank you all, everyone of you have said something that i have found useful!

We went to playgroup today and he was actually much better, just a couple of times i had to warn him. I kept destracting him if i thought he was heading down the lashing out road and that seemed to work.

Also i didnt pre warn him to be good before, i think i was definately highlighting it before hand!

Fingers crossed its not just a one off!
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PostSubject: Re: naughty step not an option   naughty step not an option EmptyFri Mar 04, 2011 2:33 am

I hope its just a one off, but I think you're doing all you can do and I'm sorry but its not the parents fault - I don't let Harry get away with it either and sometimes I'm close to tears that he lashes out as its mainly at me. Although last night at my mums he tried to take a toy off his cousin, so I took him away and sat him in the corner so that he could see what he was missing out on by not playing nicely with his cousin, he cried for the whole minute he was on it but it wasn't a tantrum it was because he wanted to play again. I told him to give Matthew (his cousin) a cuddle and play nicely with the toys and share and we didn't have a problem all evening after that!

I agree with pecan giving him lots of praise when he behaves well and positive attention when he is a good boy will make him think its better to be good as he gets nice positive attention off you xx
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PostSubject: Re: naughty step not an option   naughty step not an option EmptyFri Mar 04, 2011 4:35 am

I think everyones given you fab advice! I haven't been there myself but Im sure I will... I would do a bit of everything and although with the naughty step he puts himself there he just thinks he's being clever - I would persevere with it as he will get bored of it and realise! Kids are very clever and eventually he will click that so what if he puts himself on the naughty step he's still having to sit there missing out it has the same outcome either way

and combined with lots of praise for good behaviour I'm sure will help in no time!
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